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Ep 16 - Dan Pilone - Element84, Large Scale Computing, Enabling Open Data & People Focused Growth

Minds Behind Maps

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We've Got an Outsider's Perspective, Tracy and I

A, tracy and i regularly disagree about things like that's just part of we're both comfortable with that. And a, and we come at things from adfferent perspective. So what that's turned into is that we'll do that at the company. I mean, respectfully, we're not like yelling at each other down the hall or anything,. But i like, we will, we will disagree.

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Iht, like, it's hard to ato just leave it at the door and a and come home andwel, i'll doi that to morrow. Because it's, it's bothering both of us. Ali, it's there. So we learned, we had to set up a bunch of rules in the house. A, it is, a, it's not uncommon that if, like, we're both sitting on the couch at night, o, watching to vou whatever they like, i will pick up my phone and like email hair or something that like popped into my head, rather than saying it out loud. Because, like, it's just knocked fair at ten o'clock, to be lall, did we sign the whatever? You don't or way do you hear this? So e cind of have to, like, we had to set up rules for that kind of stuff. A, to kind of separate those am t the single biggest thing. So we have, we have an outside am group that we brought in, a the company's named kaison. A, that has been fantastic, cond of rm, executive coach perspective and culture perspective and things like that. And may they have been absolutely wonderful. I can't speak highly enough for them, am, but with their help, we, as we got bigger, as almnaty fore got bigger, we put in place a leadership team, um, and we lean on that leadership team all the time. And they are absolutely wonderful. And that was huge, because it took some of that off of just being tracy and i, and it gives us an outside perspective. One more thing i'll hit on here that i think is really important, and it's kind of a weird consequence, cause sometimes you get some people are saying like, well, if it's a husband and wife team, like, what happens to be have a problem with one of them and like, how doyo? How do you deal with that? Or, you know, or they a, you know, is that couldn't go sideways. So, a, tracy and i regularly disagree about things like that's just part of we, we're both comfortable with that. And a, and we come at things from adfferent perspective. I am very much i am very tolerant. A, i am very much e, like, how hard could it be? Like it like, we got this and will figure it out. And she is not. She is generally much more risk averse, and she is much more methodical. And you need both o these things, like, to be clearw, we talk about it, balloon in the string. I'm the balloon, she's the string. And like, if you didn't have both of them together, like, bad things would happen. So amte. But what that means is that we will frequently disagree. Not frequently, but we will. We're not concerned if we disagree with something. So what that's turned into is that we'll do that at the company. I mean, respectfully, we're not like yelling at each other down the hall or anything, goofe, but i like, we will, we will disagree. And i think what that has translated into is a comfort level inside of the company of disagreeing with things as well. And like, how do you resolve those disagreements? And you do it in you do it in a meaningful way. And ultimately, at the end, we're going to have a decision. And even if t if it wasn't your preferred outcome, like, ok, now we're all going to get behind it and go forward. And so i think kind of the weird consequence of tracy and i having a dynamic that works that way has kind of given other people in the company permission to to disagree and and come back toto, either or one of us, and say, like, i completely disagree with this thing. Can we talk through it, and then we can all about it and then come to a much better solution than if we had not had that conversation,
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