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How did you find the writing process versus the radio process? Cause they could not be more polar. Oposit ride in terms. Unt, i think we talked to annie mac about this a bit, because she's obviously had a similar experience in writing. Mother, mother and oveusly. When you'r in the radio, it's so quick, yes? It's ephemeral. You say it and it's gone, and never to be heard again, hopefully. You just, you're there and you're reacting, and it's buzzy and it's wild, and it just feels a drenelin field, and, and you don't have to ot. There's obvious element of prep and a huge element of skill that you have to learn over years. But when you're in the moment, you can just wing it and go with it. Ye. Whereas with a book, it

is so slow, youat

times, laborious. You're having to go back over things five, seven times to check and look over it. It's really polar opposite. Did you find yourself feeling impatient when you were writing? Yes,

a little bit. I fond myself, like being a bit of a word count a watcher, where i was to ah, god, it was, you know, it was a big barn, a very, very, very big ba, god. Ha, ha, ha. Go and have a cup of tea now. But youare, like you say. Bcause on the radio, you just say, it, poof, it's gone. If you have a bad show, the beauty about a daily show s if you have a bad show, you'l like, i'm back to morrow, and i'm going to kill it to morrow. And, but, you know, with the book, you've just got to keep, like you say, circling back on it and trying to finess it. But here's the thing, without finessing it too much, because then it loses its rhythm. And its flowin, you know, because if you're just going back and constantly tweaking. So i guess it's like knowing, i don't know, like a musician might know, you know, not to go in and keep twicking that bit of bas or whatever they do. And the same with mary berry and her biscuits. You know, don't, e, don't add any raisins. You've done enough to that biscuit, mary ar. So it's that kind of thing. E've like, then leaving it alone and moving on. But, y, i mean, it's a long process. I'm just at the start of the new one, and i'm a bit lik, not

uat thiit of a mout yet,

a bit ofi.