Is the United States a Country With a Strong Nationalistic Force?

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I'm always struck in the united states, but how easy it has been for foreign policy experts to underestimate the power of nationalism elsewhere. That's cause the united states is a very nationalistic country in a variety of ways. So the strong nationalism here somehow creates a screen that doesn't allow policy makers in the united States to understand hat in other countries also, nationalism is a very powerful force. In china, in russia, in irach, in viadam. In all these places, nationalism is and was a central determinant of the political dynamics. And so we have it again here. And i think your work helps us to understand the way in which these things are connected

Moisés Naím is a Distinguished Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and a member of the Persuasion board of advisors. He has served as Minister of Trade and Industry for Venezuela, Executive Director of the World Bank, and editor-in-chief of Foreign Policy magazine. His latest book is The Revenge of Power.

In this week’s conversation, Moisés Naím and Yascha Mounk discuss how authoritarian powers have banded together to respond to the challenges of technology and decentralization, the proliferation of the “Three P’s” (polarization, populism, and post-truth), and the challenges facing democracies in the 21st century.

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