The Importance of Enlightenment

"I used to look at enlightenment as like some end point, some destination that people get to," he says. "Now I don't think they've gone through the whole thing yet." The sense of being someone that can get to an ultimate place actually goes away. There's no one that could do that anymore and there never really was. And this again it's a thing I can't even talk about but I've gone through it".