I think a whole lot more people will know what it is because we're having this giant political debate in cities and states across the country. So I look at this, even though there's this anti ESG critique going on from some part of the American political sector as a really interesting teachable moment. And I'm also hoping that the media themselves will use this as an opportunity to really learn more about this and cover this field much more broadly than they have in the past.

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