I think there's a lot of upcoming movements by people who are saying, okay, you know, we're tying off and we want to change things. And so many parts of the global south, this is Ecuador, I believe you actually, they're all these movements now talking about taking control of the society of the natural resources and making them work for themselves. So I think there’s a lot of hope in the system and it's just about making sure that they come together in a way to form power in numbers.

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