I think that the idea of centrism, like that which is not like us is something to be feared or reared or resisted. Theree a lot of things that start easy that will become hard, and doesn't make them any less true. And i think there's another thing that's humbly important in our conversation, and that is, for as frustrating t as it is, we are they. We created this as humanity, and we have been here before.

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