I was brought up in a very fundamentalist Christian extended family and then I I left and went through a period of sort of radical atheism kind of what you see around the four horsemen right to Dawkins and Harrison people like that. Then I moved back into more liberal versions of Christianity and but I kept finding that what I what was I what was nourishing me within wasn't the Christianity per saying it was aspects of the of the neoplatonic tradition, which could be made consonant with stuff I was learning. As I started to teach about this and teach courses on it like the course on Buddhism and Kog Sai and you know course on the psychology wisdom I started to find this tremendous resonance

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