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DO 156 - Dark Optimism, Lean Logic, and Surviving the Future with Shaun Chamberlin and Jason

Doomer Optimism

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The Future of Optimism

Sally Kohn: I'm always curious about theories theories of change now. Do you see this as a gradual process or do you see this kind of as prepping for the judgment day, so to speak? John Michael Greer talks about catabolic collapse the system sort of gradually eating parts of itself. We have very much that kind of perspective and one of our co owners here of the happy peg is Venezuela. She first connected with her through these live in the future conversations for our time programs.

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