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Political animals (with Leah Garcés)
The Gray Area with Sean Illing
How Long Does a Chicken Live in the Wild?
This is one of those issues where just talking about it straightforwardly, like, I don't even like being here right now. This is suffering that it is so bad that to talk about it is to make it hard to keep enough people in the room to do anything about it. It's a hell of an issue. It really is. And that's why I wrote the book the way I did. Because I was worried that if I wrote a book that just spoke truth to what's happening, people wouldn't get past the first page.
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