Tim Ferriss: What triggered me was, and what triggers a lot of things that happen to people is frustration. So mildly bad and mildly frustrated are not enough to provoke change. Things have to be really bad to make you change. He says he stopped going on CNBC as much when they just stop booking him for things. Tim Ferriss: I started writing my own stuff about my own life. And shortly after that, Joe Rogan called me and said, hey, can I talk to you for a few minutes?"

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