"The thing you do on that glowing screen with the bit mapped images a the brain doesn't see that is socializing. It's so much worse because we think it is a replacement," he says. "You worry about likei, you know, becomea the very top of the comedyo this or that."
In today’s episode, we try something different: a special two-part conversation in which Cal coaches his longtime friend, comedian and podcast pioneer Jamie Kilstein, through a digital declutter. The first part of the conversation ends with Cal’s prescription for Jamie, while the second part picks up six weeks later to check in on how things actually went.
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