Rick Dobblin founded maps. He was on multi disciplinary association for psychedelic studies. The fours get booted to it. Sounds like Asian people. Math adds up. You just got old maps. I think that most probably they were probably buddies with Epstein are Kelly in particular. That would make perfect sense. And he was like, Hey, Jay, I got the perfect place for us to record. My buddy Jeff has a sweet ass island. Okay. Anyways, 1964 Rick Dobblin, his friends call him Dick, though. Yeah, Dick Dobblin. So Dick Goblin. This is his whatever time being on third, fourth, second, whatever. Second, but okay

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