I feel like we have a lot of conservative listeners I feel like it's weirdly like the like being on NPR feels very much coded as being part of the liberal media but being a podcast and lots of people don't know us as an NPR show they just know us as a podcast. Right now our podcast audiences something like 3.1 million people a week and a radio audience is 2.2 million because of that I feel like we slip under the radar in a certain way with a certain number of people. It seems like in some ways sometimes we we fly under the radar that way do your radio listeners to some small degree well do your do you think it does it why not or I