Meet Adrian Aoun—an OG listener and one of Alphabet’s best-kept secrets. He recently wound down Forward, his company that set out to reinvent the doctor’s office with AI. He joins Brit, Dave, and Jess in this episode to explore the exit, Adrian’s hardware + software play with CarePods, and what it means to create a generational company for healthcare. Also on the agenda: • is primary care venture-scalable? • are Elon & Trump BFFs?? • Optimus for the military???

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Connect with us here: 1) Adrian Aoun: https://x.com/adrianaoun 2) Brit Morin: https://x.com/brit 3) Dave Morin: https://x.com/davemorin 4) Jessica Lessin: https://x.com/Jessicalessin

00:00:00 Trailer

00:01:17 Introduction

00:02:22 Navigating New York City

00:07:13 Some Silicon Valley history

00:11:05 More Or Less: Trump and Musk

00:15:36 Forward's Journey and Challenges

00:24:00 Healthcare Innovations and Market Shifts

00:30:07 Future of Healthcare and Business Models

00:43:39 Unwinding a company

00:47:31 Healthcare Technology Adoption

00:59:15 The Emotional and Logistical Aspects

01:01:55 Outro