mahveyou've done a brilliant debating trick which is slightly mischievous. i'm in favour of defending britain's national interest on stopping us being invaded, letting hitler go to poland eastwards towards his real aim, russia. Hitler wanted three things, labenstraum, to kill jews and world domination. He didn't get the first, and he wasn't going to kill many jews by invading britain or get much laben roun either. It's a red herring and simply reflects the parlour state of max's argument. Don't blame him for using it. If my argument was as threadbare, i'd cover my

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