How do we get people to care about corruption? That's something i know you've worked on, and a lot of people are thinking about this question. I wish i had a pithy, effective answer, but i think it's something that your right to point out as is is a crucial question in 20 first century. Corruption unifies so many problems around power everywhere in the world. And at the end of the day, if people don't even care about it, we are lost in a way that's very, very difficult to fix.

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