"I don't want to be obviously when you talk about these kinds of things. There's a risk that people will think you're trying to capitalize on it." "This podcast will go on for 14 years. We'd go on till I'm dead and they're not going for ratings here," he says. 'People who are rich and powerful don't make good decisions all the time' "'Life is precious. You don't need to take insane risks,' if you are responsible for other people's lives, I mean, take it seriously.'"

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