565. Admiral Tim Gallaudet & Avie Loeb
Podcast UFO
The Importance of Courage
Martin: I applaud people like you who are carrying this conversation on and have done so, probably amongst criticism. But when I saw, for example, retired commander David Frever and his his co pilot or not co pilot Alex Dietrich talk on 60 minutes,. And then when Ryan Graves, another felt for Naval Aviator came out discussing UAP and his observations. It was really kind of cool. The way the way you feel now, we can barely detect any motion. That's what it feels like underwater. You don't know. A friend of mine astronomer that had a an encounter on a Navy submarine, and then talk about it afterwards. We do a lot of work for the Navy
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