What Happened to Elaria?

John: I met her actually in person, went by V.O., right? Yes. She's great. And we had a sort of almost we played around with a sort of adversarial relationship to some degree because I went in there all cocky. David: Another thing that happened was another thing that was rather tectonic, you know, plate shift underneath me about the Enneagram and so on. John: There could just be a way that symbols are speaking to each other even if they have no conscious basis or relationship.