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195. Jamy Ian Swiss — The Conjuror’s Conundrum

The Michael Shermer Show

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I Don't Want to Be Dick, Right?

Grief counsellors help people come back to their lives. That's what a grief counsellor is, helping to manage the experience of death and come back to the meaningfulness of life. You have the full thanks book of the old reading oig an roman. And you don't want i, as you says, right? And as you say, you don't want ti. O youn, you know, certainly not in e in the moment. But the deeper thing is the claim of him helping people, of these kind of mediums helping people is completely bankrupt. It is morally bankrupt and corrupt. One of the worst things i ever saw edward do was on

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