The book is based on pretty much hundreds of people that i was in touch twho were held across detention centres. And so they were using hidden phones to send the messages. There was a very real risk that if the information, if the, you know, my source, was made public or was iam released, that they could literally be tortured like. They were very much in real danger at that time. So actually, people did want to talk, like a lot of, i say in the book, like a lots of this ended up kind of almost as a friendship,. Some of them hadn't left a whole in a year. You know, they hadn't seen sunlight in a

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