There's immigration and then there's recruitment. And if we frame this process with those two different words, there are people who are, yes, immigrating, streaming across the border. We should bring in two or three million of those people per year. Six Jay Cal is very reasonable, no? 6 Jay Cal is great. Yeah, I think that's better when you doesn't moderate. That will be hundreds of thousands of people per year, low hundreds of thousands. And then we should have millions coming across the border."

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