Scotland is going towards independence, whether the UK government says yes or no. The next battle around independence will be on the conservative part of Scotland's political scene. They'll be saying we need to get power down to communities. It shouldn't be with Hollywood, with Edinburgh. That's what they'll be saying while they mean the opposite. And then you will have people like us and the communities we're working with, kind of going: 'Yes, we genuinely need the power to be with communities' I'm really curious as to how I would write a nonviolent transition from a state that sees itself as a significant political entity in an ideal world. Have you a sense of a process by which

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