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America Ferrera and John Paul Lederach — The Ingredients of Social Courage

On Being with Krista Tippett

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The Smallest Ingredient That Makes Everything Else Grow

I think one of the things is that i've found more transformative if you can get us even a small number, two, three or four who actually travel. If i'm with america and we have this approach, i go and spend time where she's from. She's my ogote. She's the person that opens the doorway. And when i go, i'm not going to talk, i'm going to sit and listen. My view is that you start small, ah, but you care for the quality. So it's not the quantity. It's another unimagined statement, it'snot the quantity. The eastward was to create the provocation, the smallest

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