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Buying Straddles on S&P 500
Wayne: I think there's two things that I think complement one another is number one a deep understanding of mathematics or and then number two a trading experience. As a trader I can know intuitively what to look for and as a mathematical person I can understand certain ways to to categorize the data for what I'm looking for so I come up with a trading thesis and I use a lot of this mathematics to to model my expectations and my decision. We talked about previously about buying these buying straddles on S&P 500 but can you talk about when you you think that uh maybe they're overpriced or you can find cheap convexity on proxies how do you look at that