The Negatives of Being a Bishop

When I was working in that calling as the national director for interfaith, the thing that I found was that I got to see the brethren at a more human and sensible level rather than their hierarchical level. That was great. You know, we could have conversations, we could talk about anything. It was just easy to do because there was no power play or structure. We didn't have any power, but no one had any power over us either. Enjoyed it. There's that idea in the United States, there's this idea of like seeing how the sausage is made like you grow up governmentally. And then you actually go work on Capitol Hill and you see the corruption, you