The Papay - What Is the Genesis of Your Interest in the Papay?

This is not meant to have, like, we're not responding to doctor ortland in this episode, or anything like that. And there's going to be overlap, ok, because some of the arguments that gavin has presented, they're not unique to him. But i think he does a good job of pre presenting the case against the papacy. So as we get started, what is the genesis of your interest in the papay? Like, how did that get started? And then from there? Pofreta jus sagua interior case. Surei i think the genesis is a fewfold. I grew up in a catholic household, but not knowing a