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Julián Castro on the Biden Problem, and What the Democratic Party Got Wrong

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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Analysis of potential Trump vs. Kamala Harris campaign and ramifications of a Trump presidency in 2024-2025

The chapter delves into the possibility of a campaign between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, exploring Trump's potential strategies and the implications of a Trump presidency in 2024-2025.

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Now, Donald Trump has for him, he's been restrained in the last couple of weeks. He's following by his standards. old political rules when your opponent's, in the midst of a disaster, shut up and stand by and let it happen. How do you think he would run against O 'Comala Harris? What would that campaign look like? Well,
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I think he would do a lot of the things that we've seen him do over the years, but I actually agree with those who say that I think they would overplay their hand in terms of the racism and the biases that exist in the Republican Party. And I actually think that it would end up backfiring and sending a good number of voters in the Democrats' direction, a good number people of different backgrounds, but including, you know, a good number of white voters who say, hey, that's not me. Look, I believe that that's a lot of that is an underlying feature of Trump and the Republican Party. But if someone like Kamala Harris or a similar candidate were actually the nominee, I think that it would be more explicit, so much so that it would drive people faster away from Trump and his party. I mean, look what he did with Barack Obama and his birth certificate.
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Yeah. I want to end with what I think is a really important point, is what a Trump presidency would mean in 2024 -25. What are the here? The
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guy wants to be an autocrat. January 6 was a preview of that, and Project 2025 is a blueprint for the kind of administration that he wants. Whether it's no more reproductive rights at all, or rounding up 11 million immigrants, the kind of cruelty that we saw with family separation during his first term. Donald Trump wants to be a king. It gets scarier because we have a Supreme Court that is normalizing MAGA -ism now and dumping decades and generations worth of precedent, some of our most fundamental precedent, whether it's Roe or Chevron or any number of other things. And then you add in these cowardly, other politicians there on the Republican side that often are in the House of Representatives or in the Senate. There is no check and there is no balance. It's all Donald Trump. That's the stakes.
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Secretary Castro, thank you so much.
Speaker 1
Thank you. I
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spoke with Julian Castro of Texas last week. You can find all the New Yorkers coverage of the 2024 presidential race at New Yorker dot com. I'm David Remnick and that's the program for today. See you next time. This episode was produced by Max Bolton, Adam Howard, David Krasnow, Jeffrey Masters, Louis Mitchell, Jared Paul, and Alicia Zuckerman, with guidance from Emily Botin and assistance from Michael May, David Gable, Alex Barish, Victor Guan, and Alejandra Deckett. And we had additional help from Ursula Sommer. The New Yorker Radio Hour is supported in part by the Turena Endowment Fund.

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