Intro

Thomas Dohmke, CEO of GitHub, joins Azeem to explore how AI is fundamentally transforming software development. In this episode you'll hear: 

• (01:50) What’s left for developers in the age of AI? 
• (04:54) How GitHub Copilot unlocks flow state 
• (07:09) Three big shifts in how engineers work today 
• (10:47) Is software development art or assembly line? 
• (15:26) Why developers are climbing the abstraction ladder 
• (19:35) Have we already lost control of the code? 
• (23:15) What it’s actually like to work with AI coding agents 
• (39:35) Welcome to the age of ultra-personalized software
• (45:37) Building the next-generation web 

Thomas's links:

• GitHub: https://github.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtom/
• Twitter/X: https://x.com/ashtom

Azeem's links:

• Substack: https://www.exponentialview.co/
• Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azhar
• Twitter/X: https://x.com/azeem

Our new show This was originally recorded for "Friday with Azeem Azhar", a new show that takes place every Friday at 9am PT and 12pm ET. You can tune in through Exponential View on Substack. Produced by supermix.io and EPIIPLUS1 Ltd