In 2010, I went back and visited the West Bank in 2010. There you really see like whether or not you want to say that this is in some technical sense apartheid. It's crazy to say that anybody who calls what's happening in the West Bank apartheid must be motivated by anti-Semitism. This stuff has been going on long before we were worried about a guy through as Baruch Goldstein's photo on this office wall for years.

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