Is It Necessary?

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"I felt that even in that interaction, which was, as I say, on the surface kind, almost more revealing of the assumed natural order of things," she says. "Some would call it a white patriarchal way of managing, but it is often meant to be a good thing." 'You've got to have enough compassion to help that person heal once you have deconstructed their reality,' he adds.'Just like you want white people to respect and honor your humanity, you must do the same.'

Greg interviews Dr. Dean Helen Easterling Williams, Pepperdine University Graduate School of Education and Psychology. In an upfront and candid conversation, Greg and Dean Williams explore the difference in their experiences as academics, leaders, and human beings. Dean Williams' perspective as a black woman, academic, and leader on everything going on in America, and how to most effectively move forward and make change, is a conversation you will not want to miss.

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