Curtis: I find autonomy very attractive as a goal for people, for humanity. But like Pearlman, and to some extent, like effective altruism 2.0, it lacks the metrics,. Curtis: What you're doing will actually increase autonomy. You've given me a lot to think about. Right now, I don't feel like I can decide; could you call me later and I'll make my decision then? Yes, I've made a decision. It was harder than I thought it would be.

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