The Scope of China's Intelligence Operation

The scope of China's intelligence operation would likely surprise even people who are generally aware of what China's been up to. The way that it has been described to me in the scenes fair looking at all the information in the public domain that's available, Chinese intelligence is like the KGB on steroids. This is not simply an effort to target particular individuals and to recruit people in that way. But this is a Chinese intelligence services employee, what's called a thousand grains of sand approach,. hoovering up collecting intelligence across domains in multiple different ways in the cyber realm, in the physical realm.