I'm Going to Write 4.5 Minutes. Isn't It Seven?

"We both we both believe in you, Lizzie. We're not trying to say that." "I'm excited about the idea of writing 4.5 minutes," she says. "It's hard ... I think it is torture, but it's like positive torture" 'There does seem to be a trick or this podcast is tricky where it's like, things are compounding on themselves now,' he adds. "'If you want to make it cohesive and like, like, they were talking about that, that's I certainly believe you're capable of it' And if you made me stand up for an entire episode... It would have been really fun.'"