"There was a scheme to defraud, lying. There was a profit. There was an attempt to conceal," he said. "It was a clear manipulative move and obviously very approvable with the now." He added that if you are just trying to convince someone to make a bad decision, there's no law against that. But on you made clear that the victim here, by the framing, is open. That's how they right?"

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