In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Joseph Shaposhnik, founder of Rainwater Equity and former star portfolio manager at TCW. Joseph shares the investment philosophy that drove his track record of outperformance, why he focuses on recurring revenue businesses, and how he evaluates management quality and capital allocation. We also explore lessons from great investors like Warren Buffett, Bill Miller, and Peter Lynch, along with insights on valuation, portfolio concentration, and the role of passive investing in today’s markets.
Main topics covered:
How Joseph achieved long-term outperformance at TCW and what drove his results
Why recurring revenue and predictable cash flows are central to his approach
The importance of management quality and identifying “fanatics” vs. mercenaries
Lessons investors should and should not take from Warren Buffett
Bill Miller’s influence and backing of Rainwater Equity
Characteristics Joseph looks for in great businesses and red flags in management teams
Portfolio concentration, position sizing, and risk management
Why you don’t need to have an opinion on every sector
Selling discipline and knowing when it’s time to move on
How valuation fits into his framework and how he thinks about paying up for quality
The impact of passive investing and why active managers must take a long-term view
Stories and lessons from Peter Lynch, including his enduring influence
Timestamps:
0:00 If a stock has doubled, you haven’t missed it
1:00 Introduction and Joseph’s track record at TCW
2:00 Keys to long-term outperformance
8:00 Lessons from Warren Buffett’s wins and mistakes
11:30 Bill Miller’s influence and support for Rainwater Equity
14:00 What defines a high-quality business
20:00 Free cash flow compounding and moats
24:00 Red flags in management teams
31:00 Why active management is broken and Joseph’s solution
35:00 Portfolio concentration and risk management
42:00 Sectors to avoid and why
47:00 Joseph’s selling discipline
53:00 Exceptional leaders and the role of management quality
58:00 Valuation, future value, and the changing economy
1:04:00 Passive investing and market distortions
1:09:00 Lessons and stories from Peter Lynch
1:14:00 Closing questions and key investing lessons
1:20:00 Where to learn more about Joseph and Rainwater Equity
