James Worth and Magic Johnson's Defensive Peak

Terry Porter: James worthy feels like the kind of guy that maybe bothered Bird a little bit more and I think we saw this with with Dennis Rodman as well when they were playing the Pistons. If if birds defensive peak doesn't necessarily align with his offensive peak and magic Johnson's defensive peak is I don't know somewhere for maybe slightly positive to neutral do you think that either of them quite make it up to that all time level band that you have for overall peak? Carl Malone was never an MVP level player it doesn't fit for me but I'm not comfortable mounting that argument as I said typically late teens and early 20s and early 30s are good years in basketball.