269. The Mythology of Cybersyn (ft. Evgeny Morozov)
This Machine Kills
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The Myth of Cybersin
Santiago: cybersin has a mythology and that does not mean simplifying it right because like you know simplifying it into this kind of two-dimensional you know storybook version of it can be a mythology. The ideas that Stafford Beer is creating here and trying to enact through cybersin pose a third way but not the neoliberal third way, he says. It's such a radical alternative to the classic capitalism versus socialism debate which is one about central top-down planning or decentralized coordination according to Santiago. He thinks complexity is not defeating complexity but embracing managing living in and with complexity as a form of finding liberty.
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