I think let's start with, I mean, were there moments you wanted to quit? We all have moments when we want to quit where it seems like it's just impossible to keep going and I'm sure you had many of those moments. Oh, I did. I remember I got malaria, which was reasonably common in those forests, and I was lying on the floor of my hut - a tiny little hut in the forest with a tin roof and quite wretched. And he smiled that I just felt this transmission of somebody who'd lived in the jungle for years with malaria and tigers and things like that saying, Hey, go for it.

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