Massy Knackle: A Life-Changing Experience

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Massy Knackle was sold, I forget the year 2009, maybe to a Cushman Awake field for like a hundred million bucks. The model is really interesting. Bob and Paul started this territory system that to my knowledge, nobody else does. They're both at pretty successful at post Massy Knackle, post Cushman. But the idea that they had was you carve up the city or carve up an area into markets and one broker handles that market.

Patrick Donley sits down with Kevin Clark to talk about how he broke into Commercial Real Estate at the age of 30 after getting a Master’s in Real Estate Finance at NYU. They get into what it takes to survive and succeed in the first year at a CRE brokerage, how to think about cap rates and the factors that influence them, and why he feels real estate isn’t an inflation edge.

IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00 - Intro

03:32 - How his first fix and flip near 8 Mile in Detroit went.

05:04 - What he learned serving as his own GC on a gut renovation of a New York co-op.

07:13 - Why he earned a Master’s degree in Real Estate Finance at NYU.

07:25 - How the freedom of a remote job allowed him to make the transition to real estate.

11:20 - Why having a background in finance is a huge advantage in CRE.

16:07 - How he broke into CRE with Massey and Knakal and what his first year was like.

16:07 - Why you shouldn’t consider work from home options if you are early in your career.

32:14 - What his top advice is for people just entering into CRE brokerage.

42:14 - How Kevin is trying to disintermediate brokerage on rental apartments with Cribdilla.

50:40 - What he feels are the best strategies during a negotiation?

01:03:22 - Why he feels real estate isn’t an inflation hedge.

01:03:34 - How to understand cap rates, why they are important, and the factors that affect them.

And much, much more!

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BOOKS AND RESOURCES

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Robert’s book The Everything Guide to House Hacking.
Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss.
Capital Ideas by Peter Bernstein.
The Big Short by Michael Lewis.
Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki.
Richer, Wiser, Happier by William Green.
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