Creating Space for Both, You Know, It's Not a Commodity

Aman Jered: I have flashbacks of all my church experiences where its like, the explicit tone that you're told, anyone who's going to be up front or anything, is all smiles and happiness and fun. And so iwould like, can we even just get to like, neutral iyo? Like weare so hyper focused on making everythin happy, that is not going to be a safe place again. We are especially grateful for our producers group who support us over on patrion dot com slash bible for normal people.