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The Standard of Measurement Would Be Some Human Dimension
The standard of measurement would be some human dimension, i think, right? Like quality of life. Quality of life is largely premised on the health of nature in many respects. So it's not like it's just give or take. Es, there's reciprocity there. You'd measure the success in human terms. I'm trying to get into something like a reciprocal opening where there could be mutual flourishing between human beings and and the environment.