Is There an Ideal Interest Rate?

John: Dan, this has been a fascinating tour around the madness of fraud against the background of this latest one. I always said, you should never trust a man who goes by three initials SPF,. But listen, Dan, that was really brilliant. Brilliant. And now that you've been on the show, you're going to be on again. Oh, I would love to. The great thing about writing a book on fraud is whenever it looks like it's going out print, someone commits a new pick fraud to get it back in the month. It's not a bad business model. Not a bad day, business.