How to Get Clive Off Defense

It's Clive Palmer. Long time no see. And we'll see where the little talking point scared us to with me to do that. So I know how you are. Class next you saw you a few days ago. That's it. Since then, not much has changed. Other than my voice has recovered very slightly from all the shouting and everything else that goes on at a football match. It can have an effect, you know, as you get a little bit older. But we're here. We're here and we are close enough to match fit to get a podcast out for you today. OK. Well, the first things first, listen, let's just start from the