The Right Wing in Latin America, and in the U.K.

Vargasiosa is fascinated with utopias and people who are mad enough to dream other worlds. But at the same time there's something kind of utopian and slightly mad about his ideas. The idea that we can, the way to confront this facis dictatorship is by, i don't know, returning to the ballot box with moderate reforms could be done. And thatshe, that's, that's utopian thinking as well, isn't it? That's a really interesting way of putting it. Even his good novels are interesting because of his historical novelistic technique. He would never have alligned himself with am with penache, for example.