i started programming when i was a little kid. He taught me basic. I first got into python when i was in graduate school. Now i'm an assistant professor of computer science, so kind of following my dad's footsteps a little bit. It's really exciting to see people having those h moments when they first really grasp a concept. As what's your favorite course to teach? I like teaching iowa's development. Maybe your python listeners won't like me saying that, but that's one of my favorite classes to teach.