I like that you're helping me realize that, cause i do itend toe want to have most things somehow have a backbone of being assessed in some way. But there's also that individual academic values that, you know, that weare, then we're connected to, too. Could you talk about an example of a person, or if you've got a couple people in mind, that are really truly doing something novel in assessment design? I can think of a couple of examples. One seems appropriate on a podcast to talk about, and that it's a podcast assignment. Two colleagues in our department of human service studies developed two different podcast assignments for students in classes that have community partners.