The Non-Axious Leader Podcast focuses on your spiritual, emotional, and physical well-being to help you be the best leader possible. Jack Shatama: A system or congregation that is more likely to have its leader experience burnout includes a great degree of emotional distance between the late leadership and the general membership. He says what can you do if you are in a system that exhibits these characteristics? I have five suggestions. The show will return with an all-new episode next week.