Exploring fantastical and transgressive stories in the second book

In this chapter of the podcast episode, the speakers discuss how the stories in the second book wanted to go in the opposite direction of realism and create more fantastical and transgressive narratives. They specifically talk about one story called 'The Diabolist' and its concept of love as a hellish experience. The speakers also reflect on their personal experiences with writing dark and violent fiction and the struggle of deciding whether to release it into the world.